And having run the hugely successful nights at
the Worcester Park Club for more than six years - helping turn it in to
one of south London's leading live music venues - he's now moving on.
CHRIS PRAGNELL found out more . . .
Q. Are you a born and bred south Londoner?
A. No - I was actually born in Rotterdam, as my
name gives away. I've lived all over England though, Nottingham, Birmingham
- you name it.
Q. So, when did you move to south London and why?
A. I moved south in the late 70s for work. I got
a job as a music librarian for Southwark borough council, working in Walworth
Road.
I did that for about a year, got my qualification
- I'm actually a chartered music librarian you know - although I think
they call it something else now.
Q. What are your favourite south London hangouts?
A. I was living in Kennington Road, Lambeth, and
I went to a lot of south London pubs. This was a time that shaped things
to come.
I drank at the Half Moon, Herne Hill, where I used
to see Stevie Smith and Steve Waller. They formed the R&B outfit Little
Big Band.
The Father Red Cap was another: I used to see Mick
Clarke there. He and Stevie Smith later formed the band Salt.
We also went down the Plough in Stockwell. That's
where we saw Little Sister and Hershey and the 12 Bars.
One of my favourites was the Royal Albert, Deptford.
Squeeze used to play there.
It was one of the first pubs in London to put on
alternative comedy too.
Q. What's been the highlight of your career so
far?
A. Those six-a-half-years at the Worcester Park
Club (Park Terrace, Malden Road, Worcester Park). I would say I managed
to attract every living person that I respect in music. Honestly, we were
such a successful club - and the books reflected that.
Things are changing now. When great acts emerged,
they used to do the university circuits. People got to see the great people
live. Now the record firms release videos and don't take new talent out
on the road.
Q. So what became of the Worcester Park Club?
A.It was one of the most successful ventures of
its kind in south London. It was a purpose-built extension to the Worcester
Park pub, run separately, but owned by the same brewery. It was demolished
earlier this year by Scottish and Newcastle. I think they're going towards
the restaurant market now.
Q. And now?
A. We're running live nights at Sutton United football
ground, at Gander Green Lane, Sutton. We're starting up the Boom! Boom!
Club at the ground, on Friday, August 9, to celebrate the 40th anniversary
of the Rolling Stones first professional gig in Surrey - it was the first
time the classic line up got together.
As we speak, I'm running the Woodstock live music
club in Morden.
I'm also doing the Rocking at the Cazbah on Thursdays
in Central Road, Worcester Park. In the longer term also branching out
into promoting European festivals. Mehtmann In Dusseldorf, and the Avignon
Blues festival to name but two.
Q. How did you get in to live music promotion?
A. After two years working for Southwark I got
a job at Hounslow council. I got heavily involved in their Leisure Services
department. They had an outreach service - a library can't just sit there
and have people come in, you've got to go out and get to the user. I was
a booker.
Bob Brunning, the original Fleetwood Mac bass player
had a book out, which I had contributed towards. He came to launch it,
and I realised I was involved in music in that way.
Q. And then?
A. So I started doing a few gigs. The turning point
came when we promoted Peter Singh, the rocking Sikh. It was a total sell
out - we put on a second night, and eventually it led to the BBC doing
a documentary on him. That's when it all kicked off really.
Q. Have you worked with any big names - do you
have any anecdotes?
A. I've worked with Joe Cocker, David Bowie, Rod
Stewart, The Kinks, Paul McCartney, Paul Young - a lot of big names. I
remember when I was running the Shepherd's Bush Empire, Paul McCartney
was there for the EMI sales convention. They had to clear the whole building
of any traces of meat. If there'd been a sausage roll in that building,
he wouldn't have come. Paul Young used to play at places like the Cricketers
in Oval. He's an example of one of those who came through that circuit
and made it internationally.
Q. What are your plans for the future?
A. To keep music live - at least in some parts
of south London.
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